AURORA: The new big idea in the corporate world is purpose-related marketing. How does RB fit into this new conceptual environment? SHAHZEB MAHMOOD: This is driven by younger people; they are much more aware of the state of the world because information is everywhere and it travels fast. One has to be careful, because half the time we do not know the authenticity of the information floating around us. This is the way the world is, and we have to learn to deal with it. It is in this context, that more and more people are demanding that organisations, be they local or international conglomerates or family-owned businesses, demonstrate responsibility. When you exist in this ecosystem, you have a responsibility towards it and this concept is becoming embedded in the way organisations work across the world. Organisations now genuinely believe that they need to make efforts to be positive members of the community and this trend is irreversible.
A: In Pakistan, how does it translate practically? SM: Social responsibility should not be looked at only through the lens of a broader philosophical conversation; it is a business case and RB as an organisation believes it is the right thing to do from a business standpoint as well. We work across multiple categories; we are in pest control, health and hygiene. Take pest control for example; we believe we have to keep on looking for new formulations for Mortein to help people control insects in ways that are harm-free. In the last four or five years, we have consistently come out with new formulations. We pioneered insect-repellent LED boards in Brazil and in a few test markets in Pakistan. These boards do not require spray or the dispersal of an insecticide. We have not yet converted this into large-scale commercial usage, but it is something we are committed to. On a broader spectrum, we recently launched an initiative with Hum TV, called ‘Hoga Saaf Pakistan’. In Pakistan, although there are lots of good things happening, there are also plenty of untapped opportunities as well as problems. One of them is health and hygiene, which unfortunately is not top-of-mind for a lot of people in the government or civil society, and we want to change this. In Pakistan, about 55,000 children die every year of diarrhoea, yet it is a disease which should be easily treatable and should not occur in the first place. According to the World Health Organisation (WHO), there are three root causes for the occurrence of diarrhoea. Firstly, lack of personal hygiene; secondly, poor water sanitation and thirdly, open defecation. In Pakistan, about 20 million people do not have access to toilets. According to our research, about 30 to 35% of the population do not wash their hands every time they relieve themselves. These are real issues because half the time people do not realise that they are putting their children at risk. We have launched this programme aggressively and we are already in 200 villages.
We believe that the lynchpins of ‘Hoga Saaf Pakistan’ are the women and children. If we can get them to be our ambassadors and embrace this, then we will see a very different reality
A: How is this programme run? SM: Firstly, we believe that women’s empowerment is key to creating positive change. We have recruited women from within the villages who are looking for ways to earn a livelihood and willing to commit time to this cause. At our end, we are committed to creating an economic opportunity for them that is sustainable and not based on three or six months. We have identified these women and put together a basket of nutritional and personal care goods, including soaps, salt and nutrient replacements and food such as healthy biscuits and cereals. These women then sell these baskets within their communities. They educate women and conduct classes with the help of the local schools and at the end of the day, they end up earning between Rs 15,000 to 18,000, depending on how productive and successful they are.
A: Is this run throughout Pakistan? SM: We are working in conjunction with Plan International; an international NGO that operates in Pakistan. Our ambition is to take the programme to at least 1,000 villages by 2020. It could go to a lot more if we bring more partners on board, which is what we are trying to do.
A: What is the selection criteria used to identify a village? SM: Plan International helps us with the village identification. We have also selected three districts in conjunction with the government. We work with the government and Plan International to identify where diarrhoea is most endemic. Our first village was Dhori, near Sargodha; until 2014, there had been a 26 to 28% occurrence of diarrhoea in children under the age of five, then this went up to about 57%. We decided that this was a village where the data was available and we went in. That is the criteria; we look at the numbers, obviously sometimes they are not fully captured, so we work with estimates from multiple sources.
A: In terms of the basket of goods, are these RB products? SM: No, ‘Hoga Saaf Pakistan’ is reaching out to multiple organisations. National Foods was the first company to sign on and they are an active part of this programme. Searle is part of this and so is GSK and we are carrying this conversation forward; we are still in the early stages.
A: Is the concept of partnering with different companies a new one? SM: Yes, it has not been done this way before in the sense that every organisation has its own CSR programme. I believe this is a huge business opportunity. There are multiple forums where the industry comes together to lobby with the government for tax reforms or different business opportunities. Similarly, this is an opportunity for the industry to come together and rather than all of us doing bits and pieces on our own, synergise and optimise them so that we can get a much bigger bang for our buck. Personally, I am very excited.
A: Where does the bang for the buck come in here? SM: Let's take a village in Punjab where sanitation is poor and people are not hygiene-conscious. Let's assume that RB, P&G and Unilever get together and decide to work together. Here is an opportunity for us to educate people about handwashing, teach them about kitchen hygiene and how to cook food in a way that is healthy, teach them about how to purify their water, teach them about hygiene in the house and how to clean toilets and floors. We are competitors, but that is step two. Take any country in the world; when people become health and hygiene-conscious, businesses benefit – there is absolutely no doubt about this. People are not going to manufacture soap at home. If they decide to wash their hands more frequently, they will go and buy the soap. If they understand the importance of drinking pure water, they will not boil water at home all the time; eventually they may prefer to have access to filtered water. Wherever there is a common effort to raise people’s awareness and their standard of living, businesses benefit.